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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 1, 2007 21:03:05 GMT -5
How do you feel? Some of the choices had to be shorten to fit it all in.  And by "flawed" I mean the child might be like a "vegetable" I couldn't really fit that all in... -Nibu |
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Post by deutschgarten on Mar 2, 2007 16:03:41 GMT -5
I don't think everyone and their cousin should be able to get an abortion except in rape, health risk, flawed and maybe even teens (13-18).
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 2, 2007 17:12:56 GMT -5
Meh, I feel, even if it's "flawed" I think they should live. It's possible for a cure to developed for some of the issues, and even still I hardly think kill the handicapped is right.
As for teens... if they don't use protection, it's no reason for the child to suffer the consequences...
For those who think it should be legal, I hold no grudge b/c thats what most teenagers think, but would you be willing to be aborted b/c your parents had an issue w/ your birth? I sure want to be killed b/c my mom wasn't ready or I was gonna be born with no legs.
-Nibu
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 5, 2007 15:32:02 GMT -5
"As for teens... if they don't use protection, it's no reason for the child to suffer the consequences..."
What about those people, who simply can't afford a child? That child will grow up in abject poverty, or will be taken to an institution. Who will suffer then?
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 5, 2007 19:25:43 GMT -5
Their is always adoption, and i'd rather live in poverty then death...
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Post by libertemundo on Mar 5, 2007 20:43:26 GMT -5
I think it should be pro choice w/all controversial things like abortion...right to die...etc.etc.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 5, 2007 21:40:37 GMT -5
Well, choicing your own fate is one thing, but were talking about the life of another... Does a parent hav the right to kill their child?
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 6, 2007 4:25:46 GMT -5
Their is always adoption, and i'd rather live in poverty then death... Cuz you don't know what it means.(poverty) " Unfortunately, not all of America's poor have been so fortunate. According to figures released by the U.S. Census Bureau in September 1996, 13.8% of Americans live in poverty. Many more are on the borderline. Poverty affects all ages, but an astonishing 48% percent of its victims are children: About 15 million children -- one out of every four -- live below the official poverty line. 22% of Americans under the age of 18 -- and 25% under age 12 -- are hungry or at the risk of being hungry. Everyday 2,660 children are born into poverty; 27 die because of it. Children and families are the fastest growing group in the homeless population, representing 40%." And this is the US, one of the most developed country in the world. Think about the third world: -more than a half a billion of the developing world’s children (34%) have to live in dwellings with more than five people per room or which have mud flooring. -over half a billion children (31%) in the developing world have no toilet facilities whatsoever. -nearly 376 million children (20%) in the developing world are using unsafe (open) water sources or have more than a 15-minute walk to water. -over 15% of children under five years of age in the developing world are severely food deprived, over half of whom (91 million children) are in South Asia. -throughout the developing world, 134 million children aged between 7 and 18 (13%) are severely educationally deprived – they have never been to school. And you talk about adoption?! You need the facts about the parents? Believe me, their stances are f*cked up too! Firstly, you must create an acceptable income level and only AFTER THAT can you forbid the abortion. In the other hand, yes, I wouldn't kill my blood, even the idea makes me sick, but see the big picture,plz. I have the chance to decide...a lot of people are less fortunate. |
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 6, 2007 10:56:44 GMT -5
Well you might give yourself up for your parents mistakes, but i'd still rather live in hell then die. I hold life at the top of all else.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 6, 2007 15:48:04 GMT -5
"Well you might give yourself up for your parents mistakes"
It's the mistake of the society, not the individuals. How can you impeach a parent, if the nearest school is 200 km away?
You don't know the nature of that hell......it isn't life....it's a nightmare. They haven't got a chance.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 6, 2007 16:21:56 GMT -5
society fault? Society tells them not to hav a kid when you can't handle it and to use protection. They can and should move if that's the case. Meh, theirs never middle ground w/ this issue...
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 6, 2007 16:27:56 GMT -5
Should move? When you have nothing but a glass of water, you aren't educated, PROTECTION?! We are talkling about the third world, immigrants,etc. Education,you know. If you are hungry, you haven't got a job,friends, you will not know about "protection". And if this occurs, the abortion can be a solution.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 9, 2007 9:24:45 GMT -5
It hardly matters what the situation is, adoption is always their. I personally feel that abortion is murder, some don't consider it to be a child/living, but I do.
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Post by deutschgarten on Mar 9, 2007 17:36:45 GMT -5
How can their be any adoption when there are no orphanages? I mean in a third world country there really isn't much of anything except small villages with 2 or 3 straw shacks that have no water, heat or electrity. It's just four walls and a roof.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 10, 2007 13:01:03 GMT -5
Well, again, i'm talking about in the US/advanced nations, and I think it's safe to assume that in a "small villages with 2 or 3 straw shacks that have no water, heat or electrity" that they can't preform an abortion.
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Post by moraviancounties on Mar 18, 2007 15:17:18 GMT -5
no way for flawed or as birth control...
only if the mother was raped or is going to die.
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Post by Alida & Syren on Mar 19, 2007 12:25:32 GMT -5
if we are talking about giving abortions in third world countries. If there was an option for them to have abortions- surely they would be better off giving them birth control so they dont get pregnant in the first place, rather than letting them get pregnant then get an abortion!
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Post by Neo Nibu on Apr 26, 2007 8:19:15 GMT -5
You guys hear about the recent Supreme Court decision banning partial birth abortions? It's not too much of a win for pro-life as it only effects 10% of all abortions that take place yearly (in the US), but it's still a step in the right direction.  |
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Post by numnar on Sept 12, 2007 15:14:23 GMT -5
Women should have the right to choose what happens to their bodies and so should have the right to abort.
Birth control and sex education should be much more available and also should be free as this would cut down on the need for abortions which cost quite a lot to perform (so it would be cheaper as well as preferable).
Personally I think that its more important to safeguard the well being of people who already exist then potential people. Studies have shown that suicide and depression among teenage mothers is much higher among those who give birth then those that abort.
One of the problems that people have in Britain (where I live) is that in many areas it is impossible to have abortions up until the time when you can due to limited medical services. This means that in places like Wales and Northen Ireland they effectivly have a shorter time in which they can have an abortion then the law says that they can.
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Post by deutschgarten on Sept 12, 2007 15:43:13 GMT -5
Does a parent have the right to kill their child? Well apparently they do. In the U.S. only a parent/guardian can decide whether a child under the age of 18 can recieve medical treatment, including life-saving procedures. So, if a parent can decide after their child is born if they live or die, why not before they're born aswell? |
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