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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Aug 18, 2007 8:30:01 GMT -5
Invited nations: Templosia,Primus Orios, TWWK, Kaleckton, Deutschgarten, Kazzerland, and Debro.
-Disappointed with the methods of the USMA, -Worried about the large number of civilian casualties, -Hoping a fast, peaceful solution,
Debro hereby suggest the following solution:
-All foreign troops leave Templosia as soon as possible -A total of 300,000 soldiers are deployed as a peace-corps, from the countries of TWWK,Debro, and Deutschgarten(200,000-50,000-50,000) to help the reconstruction, and to prevent the neighboring countries from another assault. -Templosia is free to form any alliance, but if that alliance is hostile toward the rest of the world, the USMA holds the right to intervene -Templosia guarantees that political organizations aren't outlawed in his country (communist organizations, particularly)
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Aug 18, 2007 9:26:21 GMT -5
This is not as a result of a rule in the USMA, I am very friendly with the nation of Kazzerland and at the time believed that Templosia was a threat. To not help a friend would of looked bad. But don't look badly at the USMA. the USMA was not involved, it was our own membernations. This was not an action in the name of the USMA Kazzerland made the action, the war, no order from the USMA.
I HOPE that you will not find the USMA at fault and see that Kazzerland caused this.
I am ready for a ceasefire, although there is a problem... with all civilians out of the nation they only have the army to do the work.... the nation is effectively messed up forever without a work force to do stuff. I want a ceasefire and no sanctions or blame on the USMA as its red guard was not invovled it was just some nations and the entire alliance didn't support the war, cacinecro was the only one who didn't declare war. I also note that no nuclear weapons were used so no need to be mad at any nations.
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Post by Kazzerland on Aug 18, 2007 10:26:38 GMT -5
btw My troops were pulled out as soon as Templosia surrendered. Also I declared to the USMA that I planned to invade and they told me that this was okay and then they also declared war. It was not completely my fault.
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Aug 18, 2007 15:22:34 GMT -5
Well do you expect the USMA to say no? The USMA didn't give a damn, and the USMA itself was not invovled, the Red Guard never touched Templosia.
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Post by deutschgarten on Aug 18, 2007 17:23:44 GMT -5
Deutschgarten agrees to the terms above but would like to see the USMA give the nation of Templosia 7 billion in aid to rebuild their country. ( A fair amount don't you think? Though you can never put a price on human life.)
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Aug 18, 2007 17:41:25 GMT -5
I will admit that my bombings on their capital was pretty harsh but maybe to the tone of me paying 2 billion? No nuclear weapons were used.
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Post by deutschgarten on Aug 18, 2007 17:47:16 GMT -5
It's not just you paying it's the involved membership of the USMA
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Aug 18, 2007 18:35:28 GMT -5
Well one member who wasn't in the war, Cacinecro would he have to pay? Remember this was not an action in the name of the USMA this was an action by Kazzerland so the USMA is not at fault, we did not fund this war, nothing in our rules states going to war with the nation Kazzerland invaded, and no USMA red guard went onto the land so the USMA has NOTHING to do with it.
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Post by Kazzerland on Aug 18, 2007 19:12:30 GMT -5
Yes, while the Red Guard was not involved, nearly all of the nations in the USMA were involved and supported the invasion. So all I'm trying to say is that I can't take full blame.
OOC: I also noticed that Primus Orios is constantly trying to put the blame on me in all of his posts related to this war....
Take a look at this, too:
"We can destroy all capatalist countries." A quote from Primus Orios, you'll see it in the USMA thread. I think that takes a lot of blame away from me.
All I'm trying to say is that I had authorization from the leader of the USMA to invade along with the other nations who invaded or helped the invasion.
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Post by Casinecro on Aug 18, 2007 19:44:25 GMT -5
I know i didn't help but i did send troops, even if I didn't make them attack or anything. I geuss I'll pay money or supplies or whatever for my socialist brothers.
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Post by kaleckton on Aug 18, 2007 19:51:10 GMT -5
I did not wanted to become involved in this war. The only thing I did was to open up my borders to the country and sent in aid to makes sure they could retreat to my country easily. I have thousands of Templosia refugees. The only reason I sent in an army was to prevent more Templosian deaths. While I am part of the USMA I no way wanted nor encouraged a war against Templosia. I want my army to remain to help the rebuilding of Templosia under a new government that they wish to form. I also want to have my army to remain to insure that they are not invaded again.
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Aug 18, 2007 22:36:35 GMT -5
Well of course I gave the okay Kazzerland, why would I say no? That stuff I posted is wrong.... but your the one who shot the bullet not us. I followed in because I like your nation and am willing to help minorly in a war.
I vote ceasefire.
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Post by Kazzerland on Aug 18, 2007 22:42:18 GMT -5
I also vote a cease fire and I understand your point Primus Orios. No hard feelings?
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Aug 19, 2007 8:53:03 GMT -5
I'm cool with whatever, were there hard feelings from the start?
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Aug 19, 2007 9:06:50 GMT -5
So the two attackers accept the terms?Templosia?
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Post by Kazzerland on Aug 19, 2007 11:22:06 GMT -5
I think Templosia said that he was inactive.
I geuss there weren't any.
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Aug 19, 2007 14:47:47 GMT -5
The one you started the topic with and no blame placed on the USMA
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Post by kaleckton on Aug 19, 2007 15:17:58 GMT -5
And I am allowed to keep my troops on Templosian land to help in the rebuild and to protect the new government that will form.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Aug 20, 2007 3:24:29 GMT -5
-Disappointed with the methods of the aggressors, -Worried about the large number of civilian casualties, -Hoping a fast, peaceful solution,
Debro hereby suggest the following solution:
-All foreign troops leave Templosia as soon as possible -A total of 300,000 soldiers are deployed as a peace-corps, from the countries of TWWK,Debro, and Deutschgarten(200,000-50,000-50,000) to help the reconstruction, and to prevent the neighboring countries from another assault. -Templosia is free to form any alliance, but if that alliance is hostile toward the rest of the world, the USMA holds the right to intervene -Templosia guarantees that political organizations aren't outlawed in his country (communist organizations, particularly)
Templosia has not requested your "protection".The peace-keeper forces would ensure the real protection - considering that the majority of the forces are from a completely independent state,Sad Ni Kuk.
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Post by TWWK on Aug 20, 2007 8:31:03 GMT -5
Sad Ni Kuk will agree to the peace terms. However, with current military threats still fresh in the minds of the Sad Ni Kuk Eh (People of Sad Ni Kuk), and to prevent any possibilities of occupational bitterness and resistance by the people of Templosia, the Kingdom of Sad Ni Kuk asks that it be clear that the government of Templosia have full say in dismissal of this peace-keeping force, at any rate and at any time.
Sad Ni Kuk will also, to great economic cost, transport refugees safely back to Templosia. However, it will also allow any Templosians to gain citizenship and stay in Sad Ni Kuk, if they so desire.
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