Constitutional reform -off topic,closed

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Let's start the debate.

I think that we should write a whole new constitution, the old one is confusing.I think that we need a detailed constitution.

So:
My first suggestions:
-revoke the Founder's veto power
-Unify the Head of International Relations and the Head of REcruitment(new name:Foreign Minister - shorter and better)
-Unify the Head delegate and the Head Senator post(The HS isn't that important...just making polls....)
-Strenghten the Co-Head Senator post(to balance the HS-delegate powers)
-Turn the Head of Defence to a sub-office.
-Integrate the laws to the constitution, abolish the ability of law-proposing, only leave the constitution(more simple)
Opinions?
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Respecting the principles of the Constitution, but realizing that the document isn't efficient enough, the Constitution hereby rendered null and void, replacing it with the following:

[Archaix]

Completely agreed. Also I would like to propose:

- Standardization of voting times for Law, Amendment Alliance and Election polls.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

III. Head Senator
A. Rights & Job Duties
-Head Senator has the right to set up all voting polls
-Head Senator has the right to be a MOD on the forum
-Head Senator has the right to appoint a Co-Head Senator
B. Voting Poll setup Requirements
-Law polls must have a minimum length of 3 days voting time
-Amendment polls must have a minimum length of 5 days voting time
-Alliance polls must have a minimum length of 4 days voting time
-Election polls must have a minimum length of 5 days voting time

That's already included, however only the minimum lenghts.

[Archaix]

Yeah, but that also means that it could be an indefinate voting period. It should be a week for all of them, like in the CSA.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Abolish the voting at all!

like in the Soviet Union.

But to be serious - it's a good idea to set up a maximum.

[Archaix]

What about min of 5 and max of 7 for all?

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Sounds good to me, makes the work of the HS/delegate easier.

[Archaix]

Ok, put that all into one document and I'll set up a poll for it.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Ah, i guess we should completely redraw the whole constitution. for example:

I. Citizenship
A. To be a Citizen you must be any of the following
-be located within International Nations
-be located in a Providence of International Nations
-doing spy work for International Nations
-deployed to other regions for military usage
B. Rights
-Free Speech
-Do not need to join the UN

I'm not sure that this is neccessary, in this form. I think that the newcomers would really welcome whole sentences instead the
-blahblah
-blahblah
II
-blah

style.

[Archaix]

robespierre said:

I can't be bothered. You do it!

I see.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Oh, not........exactly. Common work!

I've already wrote this:
Respecting the principles of the Constitution, but realizing that the document isn't efficient enough, the Constitution hereby rendered null and void, replacing it with the following:

[Archaix]

;D That's good!

I'm currently writing up the bill. It's hard work, but I'm getting there.

[Archaix]

Problem: how would the post of co-head senator be strengthened? And what would the new title for him/her be now that the actual head Senator is the Head Delegate?

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

I was thinking on it too...Maybe the Head Delegate(we should find another title, perhaps) could appoint him, but from the opposing party, or only an independent senator could be the co-hs.

[Archaix]

Got it: The Co-head senator becomes the Deputy Head delegate, and proposes the law. But can be dismissed by Head delegate.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

But can be dismissed by Head delegate.

Hm, but this way, the delegate could easily appoint a puppet....How about no-confidence vote?By the senate, and with 2/3 majority.

EDIT: and the opposing party would delegate the Deputy-candidate...(this way, the delegate couldn't appoint a fairly inactive member)

[Archaix]

Ok, I'll add that too. I'm almost done.

[Archaix]

Debro, could you move it to Voting? I put it in the wrong forum.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Yeah, looks good!

But i still think that we should write a brand new constitution, and scrap the old one. That's confusing, and with this amendment, it will become just more confusing.

[Archaix]

You could have told me that before I wrote it up.

But I agree, I suppose.