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Post by Archaix on May 27, 2007 5:09:45 GMT -5
I based that on:
Even rapists are people. Admittedly, not people we want wandering about the streets -most I gauge cannot be reintroduced to society, either- but no one deserves to die.
Whether or not you see an embryo as a human or not is always going to be debatable. It's my opinion that until they look vaguely human they're not really human. But I'll stand by the mother's option each time, since it's her who's going through it all, and it's ultimately her decision.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 27, 2007 6:13:12 GMT -5
Ah, going the same way as our country, then. I wonder if that was a condition for joining the EU? It was another story. The current problem is that the debt of the state is huge; the government is cutting the funds where he can, along with tax rising, but not in the industry - Hungary is very dependant to foreign investments and imports. If you remember - the BBC broadcasted it - far-right groups and football hooligans burned a TV-center in response.
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Post by Archaix on May 27, 2007 7:44:50 GMT -5
The last thing I heard about Hungary was something to do with the prime minister lying about the general election, and there was rioting about that.
The BBC (at least in the UK) doesn't usually talk about world news -it's ridiculous. I only found out about a massive riot in Copenhagen through Euronews, which I watch a lot more now than I did before. England is too self-contained.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 27, 2007 8:07:14 GMT -5
the real reasons behind those riotin was the austerity budget. The current PM promised everything in his campaign...after ppl elected him they were disappointed. A tape bout private discussion between the party elite slipt out; The pm used extreme language on it... "gentlemen, we fucked this up. We did nothing in the past 4 years, only lied to the ppl.It's time to do smothing" etc, it's about 1 hour long.
So everybody was surpised that polititians are lying.(you know, our democracy is young...)The opposition demanded elections,etc. The whole parade was bad for the tourism, but nothing else.
Punks will remain in Copenhagen, don't worry ;D
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Post by deutschgarten on May 28, 2007 11:22:01 GMT -5
I think abortion and capital punishment should be in place because not having abortion is like limiting women's rights and the death penalty is a lot more effective in detering/punishing people for murder.
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Post by silvado on May 30, 2007 17:37:27 GMT -5
I voted What's Death? to represent other.
Just have criminals who are sentanced to life have gladiator fights. You can make money off the matches and you won't have to deal with them staying in prison for too long. If they win so many matches they get sent to the military and a social worker.
OR
Just have a whole military unit made up of convicts, don't mix them with the other units.
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 30, 2007 18:04:27 GMT -5
lol, that's a bit barbaric
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Post by deutschgarten on May 30, 2007 18:24:14 GMT -5
heh, I got an issue a while back to put convicts to work so that they could fund the prisons holding them, giving citizens a tax break. I like the sound of it. It adds a whole new dimension to the punishment.
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Post by silvado on May 30, 2007 19:25:41 GMT -5
lol, that's a bit barbaric Yeah it is, but the romans did it and history repeats itself...jk for my second point: If people want to kill send them in the army.
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Post by numnar on Sept 13, 2007 9:50:52 GMT -5
yeah its what the russians did as well
The death penalty has always been a bit iffy to me
one of the things thats recently come to light that should be of impact in this issue is the fact that something like 2/3rds of the prison population (in britain at least) is thought to be dyspraxic/dyslexic/other autism spectrum conditions. As a dyspraxic myself I know how hard it is to keep control among you norms and thats with treatment
Though then again it might not make much difference to america as they seem quite happy to kill people who haven't got complete control over their actions.
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Post by Archaix on Sept 13, 2007 11:35:43 GMT -5
That's true, but governmental officials are trying to do anything at the minute to reduce prison levels. Just to save face they'll readily grab all those inmates who've committed 'petty crimes', give them a reconciliatory clap on the shoulder and show them the door. But I agree if there are people who need treatment, they should get it.
For all of you who don't know about the prison situation in the UK: it turned out a few months ago that we now have 80,000 prisoners (roughly the maximum capacity of all the prisons nationwide), and that the Home Office which is supposed to designate new prisons, rehabilitation schemes and crime drives have, for the past half a dozen years or so, been slacking off big time. That's like the UN saying, 'Yeah, we haven't been concentrating on Darfur, sorry. We we've been too busy making a massive line of dominoes'.
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Post by numnar on Sept 14, 2007 5:50:02 GMT -5
Well autism spectrum conditions can be considered a social problem simply due to the fact that unless you are middle class/live in the right area's you don't get diagnosed, your just told your lazy, stupid, bad or that you have ADHD (ritalin has the same effect on both groups but autism spectrum people can have other more effective treatment).
Its estimated now that something like one third of the population may be dyspraxic (in countries looked at which are western european so it could be that its a condition with those of european gene stock)
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Post by Kardas on Sept 14, 2007 10:23:03 GMT -5
No offense, but, isn't this 'gravedigging' Correct me if I'm wrong
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Post by numnar on Sept 16, 2007 14:33:52 GMT -5
gravedigging?
As the context is not right for it to be actually gravedigging what are you talking about?
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