UN-delegate-elections?

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

ok, as i said before, i think we should elect our UN-Delegate as any other position since we have to be democratic...Nibu is doin a great job, i'm sure he will win the elections, but i think it's still necessary. So what do you think?


IV. Amendment

The fourth paragraph of the constitution is rendered null and void, therefore replaced with the following paragraph:


IV. Head Delegate

A. Rights & Job Duties
-Head Delegate is in charge of UN affairs
-Head Delegate has the right to be a MOD on the forum
-Head Delegate can veto any bill passed by senate that has less then 75% support of voters
-Has the right to regional controls

B. Terms & requirements
-Must be in the UN
-Must be the member of the Senate
-Have to be elected every other month on the 21st
-Cannot serve more than 6 months in a row

C. Order of election / Endorsements distribution
-Elected together with other governmental post - after the elections, ALL UN-members of the region MUST endorse the elected Delegate. Breaking this law will results in a trial.
-The High Judge is responsible for the procedure.
-Sends out warning telegramms
-In case of ineffectiveness, decides about punishment.
-Non-delegate nations can only have half of the endorsements owned by the delegate.

D. Revocation
-All senators have the right to call for a mid-term election in case
- has the support either the Founder,Head of Senate, or the High Judge
- has the support of the Senate (75%)

[Neo Nibu]

The only thing I see that will be a problem is "ALL UN-members of the region MUST endorse the elected Delegate" and "Non-delegate nations can only have half of the endorsements owned by the delegate."

We are very inactive and their is always gonna be a few UN nations not on the forum and whom won't follow theses rules. Also I don't really see the point of having elections as we are so inactive and still havn't even set up elections for HoS which shoulda been 4 days ago.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

You're right. Sounds a bit harsh, but how about kicking the inactive nations(after several warnings and a fair trial, of course)? It would motivate at least the UN nations to join the forum, since only a senator can be a delegate. Also, it would increase the stability...you've probably noticed that as we losing nations, you started to lose endorsements, and others have nearly the same amount.

inactiveness:well, this is a game, and most people have other things to do...the only thing we can do is the recruitment. Plus, i think that an exodus would not solve the problem.

[deutschgarten]

To be honest isn't endoresing a ntion already just like voting for the nation that you want to be the UN delegate? This Amendment seems like a waste of legislature to me.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

This is true, indeed. Anyway i still think that it would add a...flavour to the game, more responsibility to the officials, and maybe this can encourage people to be more active...but of course if nobody supports the idea, i'll not even set the poll.

[Neo Nibu]

Well, in my older regions we did hold votes to get the UN Delegate, I didn't include it this time because I wasn't the founder, and didn't want to have to worry about elections and term Limits. Unless we get alot more people to become active, I don't think we should bother with this idea. If we did have elections and say I lost, most of the UN nations wouldn't be on to unendorse me and endorse the winner.

[His Holiness King Of Penguins]

what about political parties? That would be even better.

[Neo Nibu]

Again with the parties idea? This idea has been shot down several times, we're not active enough to keep going in these circles.

[fgpr]

Most other larger regions hold an election for the UN Delegate. Even if nations endorsing a new delegate aren't on the forum to know they should switch endorsements, they can be sent a TG in game and you can post a notice in the WFB telling everyone whom to endorse. That should, for the most part, solve the problem.

[His Holiness King Of Penguins]

We are pretty active you know it is just alot of the nations are not very active..... Everyone on the forum is active so the political party idea would be good.

[Neo Nibu]

"they can be sent a TG in game and you can post a notice in the WFB telling everyone whom to endorse. That should, for the most part, solve the problem"

Their aren't ebough active nations to get them to unedorse or endorse someone else, you can send them a TG, but they won't be on to read it.

"We are pretty active you know it is just alot of the nations are not very active..... Everyone on the forum is active so the political party idea would be good. "

We have already covered this issue, go look on other threads. I really don't see the point arguing this idea again...

[Alida & Syren]

voting at this stage would be ridiculous with only about 7 at the most nations being active, so i think just endorsing who you like for now is the best way to go.

as for the inactive nations i think that the idea for tg them a warning and giving them a trial, or somthing like that would be a good idea, as the region does have a large amount of nations who have just joined the region and thats it! so thining out the stranglers may be a good idea.

i think this issue could be avoided in recruiting by changing the recruitment tg slightly to include somthing that would encourage nations who wish to be active in governtment affairs and join the forum. perhps then we would interest people who enjoy, well, being actve. and discourage those who wish to just chg along and do the daily issues and thats it.

also- if there were to be more trials perhps there was a seperate board for trials, like a courtroom board? just a thought.

[His Holiness King Of Penguins]

We probly should make a thread thing where new laws and ways the region could be run could well be made up and talked about and then there could be a vote on it if most nations on the forum support it, this is where the political party idea could be good.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

"We probly should make a thread thing where new laws and ways the region could be run "

Discussion chamber is what you want
read our I. Law...


"could well be made up and talked about and then there could be a vote on it if most nations on the forum support it"

read our I. Law

"this is where the political party idea could be good."
then - regarding to our I. Law- you can propose a law, or amendment, where you fix your ideas about the political parties, our Hos or me will open a poll, and voila, if most ppl support it...

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

i think recent troubles with the delegacy has actualized this thread.....
I think we should consider this amendment. This would eliminate the current problems. Alida has 11 endorsements(slight), i have 9 so i can even take it accidentally - and regarding our constitution, neither me or alida can take the post....

[His Holiness King Of Penguins]

It has to be someone who has no post but we also don't want it to be a really new member to the region because they won't know what to do but we can't elect them every month so mabey once every 3 months and make it that if they are running for UN Delegate they can't run for any other post incase they get a other post and the UN Delegate one.

[deutschgarten]

yes.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

So, will we elect the delegate...like the other officials?

[deutschgarten]

I'll do an official poll about it and the second law, when I get the ability to make polls...

...Just waiting on Nibu.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Oh. So you can't close the Head of Defese poll, can you? I'll close that then, and somebody should change the world factbook entry too. Ladies&gentlemen, the elections are over!