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Post by Neo Nibu on May 15, 2007 13:25:13 GMT -5
So I wrote this up, what do you guys think?
XIV. Providences A. Terms of becoming a Providence -Any region that wishes to become a Providence of International Nations must be approved by 75% of voters -Any region that has been taken over by the Military of International Nations must have 75% of voters support to become a Providence B. Rights of Providences -Have the right to Elected a Providence Delegate -Have the right to have their own board on the forum
XV. Providence Delegate A. Rights & Duties - Providence Delegate has the right to be a MOD on the forum and of the Providence Board - Providence Delegate can veto any bill passed by senate that has less then 75% support of voters that relates to the Providence (only if their is no Providence Founder) - Providence Delegate has the right to regional controls of that Providence - Providence Delegate is in charge of UN affairs for the Providence C. Terms & Requirements -A new Providence Delegate is to be elected every other month on the 21st -A person cannot serve more than 3 terms in a row -Must be in the senate to run -Must be in the UN to run
XVI. Providence Founder (If their is one) A. Rights -Be a MOD on the forum and for his/her regional board -Can veto any bill passed by senate that has less then 75% support of voters that relates to his/her region -Can give out Pardons to anyone who Committed a crime against his/her region
We’d also need to add this to amendment I.
I. Citizenship A. To be a Citizen you must be any of the following -be located within International Nations -be located in a Providence of International Nations -doing spy work for International Nations -deployed to other regions for military usage B. Rights -Free Speech -Do not need to join the UN
Once we work out any issues people might have with it, lets hold a vote.
-Nibu
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 15, 2007 13:53:17 GMT -5
I think it is very good but not many nations will wan't to be a provence unless they are very small or are taking over so mabey wait until the millitary is built up enough?
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 15, 2007 14:24:56 GMT -5
Of course most of the Providences would be regions we take over, I just thought to add that as an option.
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Post by deutschgarten on May 16, 2007 17:26:44 GMT -5
I think we should get rid of the providence voting for wether or not it wants to be our providence when we take them over. I mean since WE took them over shouldn't WE decide wether or not to make them one of our providences?
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Post by fgpr on May 16, 2007 22:58:54 GMT -5
Do we necessarily want "providences" at all? Sounds a bit imperialistic to me...
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 17, 2007 7:51:52 GMT -5
Well, 90% of the time, the region we'd take over would be very inactive. And yes it is imperialistic, but it is a fun part of the game.
Also the reason I added; A. Terms of becoming a Providence -Any region that wishes to become a Providence of International Nations must be approved by 75% of voters
Cause I was thinking of making my own region and having it as a providence. Or maybe just run for Providence Delegate of one we take over.
I'm trying to think of was to keep this region alive, and i'm the only one recruiting. I'm loosing my motivation... I'm gonna end up inactive like the rest of the region at this rate. I really believe if we gain Providences we will see nations joinning our region to make a name for themselfs. 90% of the nations in NS want to be in some postion of 'power'. The easyest way to recruit people is to give them the chance at a government job, and the bigger the region the more power that job gives. With Providences we'd have our own Empire.
Or we can just not have Providences, and we can hope someone will step up and do massive recruiting and keep this region running because I most likely will go inactive like everyone else. Every day it gets harder for me to log on and take a look around on the forum.
If any of you have a great idea that would work better than this Providence idea, i'm all ears.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 17, 2007 10:46:28 GMT -5
Yeh i think that provenses will really boost this regions population and make it more active but we probly should not make a forum for every provense because it would be way too much hard work and the regions we take over will probly on have a very small population so there would be no point and it would make this forum much better.
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 17, 2007 12:38:06 GMT -5
It doesn't say have their own forum it says 'Have the right to have their own board on the forum' so it be like the way we have 'Embassies' set up. I'd create a new catagory for Providences then have a board in that catagory for each of our Providences. Give the Providence Delegate and if their is a founder MOD spots on their board and give them the option of adding a password so only their regional members can enter.
Debro once you read this please make a poll as your our Head Senator as Ash is inactive.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 17, 2007 13:39:19 GMT -5
on the millitary board i think you said forum
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 17, 2007 13:55:14 GMT -5
Oh really? well I didn't mean too, I meant board.
EDIT:
We can always go around to other regions and ask if they wish to become a providence. Go to fairly small ones that don't have a forum. We got alot to offer, it means the founder of region would would have more power and they'd get to join our forum. I bet you we could get atleast one maybe 2 to join us. Maybe even more depending on how much time I spend trying to get other regions to join, and if anyone else helps out.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 18, 2007 2:06:15 GMT -5
Is this the eventual version?
The idea is not bad at all, but.
I don't like this citizenship thing. Say we take over a region, and that region will become our providence. The members of it then will become our citizens. This means, they can be senators, etc... interesting situation;our formal enemies could vote on important laws...i don't think we really need that.
Even with voluntary joined regions...they should not be allowed to inluence local decisions, this is none of their business...
so i would suggest to leave the amendment, a law would be sufficient.
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 18, 2007 7:58:10 GMT -5
Yea but giving Providences nations’ citizenship is only logical. Giving the change for them to vote and the like. 'They should not be allowed to influence local decisions' their really isn't any 'local decisions' all of our voting has to do with the government and making changes. Making changes to Amendments and improving our constitution. Even more so their is a good chance a few of us will remain in the Providence to maintain our control.
I don't really understand why you wouldn't want to give them the right to vote.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 18, 2007 17:04:31 GMT -5
it's theoretical. Let's try with an example.
We are a peaceful region,aren't we?When we go and invade a region, we'll have a serious reason...for example they're goin to attack us or keep sayin that we're all assholes. When we conquer em, they'll still believe that we're assholes and they'll propose a law fixing that we are, in fact, assholes.
but, never mind, i'll set the poll.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 19, 2007 8:16:55 GMT -5
Well we could take them over and then they will most probly hate us for the 1st few days and then we can show then how good it is to be part of a larger region but still partly rule yourselfs
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 21, 2007 10:20:06 GMT -5
Well if a case like that came up we'd most likely not have them as a Providence, more or less keep them under our control or kill the region off by booting everyone or simply leave.
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