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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 20:19:22 GMT -5
"See my corruption reflected in you? Feel it seeping in? Enjoy it"
And you think I've never done anything corrupt before this? Remeber the "Fascist Leaders" nations? Don't think so highly of yourself. And saying that your filled with coruption doesn't exactly persuade us to think better of you.
"An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind."
I don't know about you but I've got two eyes.
Everytime you get bored you use these forums and it's users as your playthings. Don't say you do it to liven things up because the regions dying and it's in-active. We all know it's just for you to get a little bit of excitment out of other people trying to find out what the hell is going on with the region and forums. I could never trust you in a powerful position again after this. Heh, I mean, you haven't even apologized or said that you regret what you've done and I'm meant to trust you with the forums?!
I only lied to get the founder back because it was the only way to secure that IN be one region again.
I will only be happy with these arangements when either Debro get's the root admin or somehow Debro and Nibu both get root admin.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 22:11:30 GMT -5
Ha Tevio, "See my corruption reflected in you? Feel it seeping in? Enjoy it", merely means you are as corrupt as I, Have upstrucked justice as I, and have done the region wrong as I.
"saying that your filled with coruption doesn't exactly persuade us to think better of you"
That's clear to me when you betrayed me.
EDIT: God damnit I'm not taking about that crap you did before hand, i'm Referring to the here and now.
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 22:14:54 GMT -5
I've edited my above post.
"merely means you are as corrupt as I, Have upstrucked justice as I, and have done the region wrong as I."
Ah, but I have apologized and tried to repay IN as much as possible. I was banned from the region. You didn't even get a slap on the wrist. And no, I haven't done as much damage as you have.
Contradictory to my previous posts I would be actually sad to see you leave. I do feel guilty about going back on our word but you must understand that it was in the best interests of the safety of IN. I apologize for my previous insults, it was anger which made me say them.
Believe it or not.
Ok, I'm a little bit more calm now.
Right. I've been thinking about this whole situation. This entire thing is way too exagurated. This is just a damn game, it doesn't really matter what the hell goes on here. I admit that it was fun trying to negotiate over the founder of IN and these kind of crisis's are refreshing but if we want that kind of excitement shouldn't we become a raider or liberator region? I really don't give a damn if we all stay in this forum with Nibu as root admin or not just as long nothing like this happens again and we need a way to make sure of that. Nibu's right, we could always use the new forums as a backup. Whenever something good is posted here we can transfer it to the new forums straight away instead of doing it all at the last minute.
If there's no possible way for multiple people to be root admin I'd vote "yes" on staying here if there was a vote being held for it.
BUT If this were to procede there would have to be some kind of punishment right? Like not being High Judge anymore?
If that were the case I'll happily stay here, it's not like this situation is the end of the world.
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 22:33:02 GMT -5
Just my opinion by the way. I was very tired and kind of angry while posting the other comments
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 22:40:33 GMT -5
hey where'd that post go?
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 22:42:05 GMT -5
I wanted to make changes b/c you changed your post, you make it hard to write hang on >_<
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 22:43:14 GMT -5
Well you guys shoulda trusted me, I wasn't lying.
But If I must go down with my ship, I will.
I may have done alot of shit, but I also wrote the original constitution(and the current one is basically the same) and I created the forum, I wouldn't really do anything to destroy that, that's why I trusted you to give the founder nation back because I didn't think you'd betray me like this.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 22:45:15 GMT -5
"if there was a vote being held for it"
Your joking right? Because I think WE DID HAVE A VOTE ON IT
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 22:45:36 GMT -5
yes but this is a different situation now. I'm not suggesting another one
"Well you guys shoulda trusted me, I wasn't lying.
But If I must go down with my ship, I will.
I may have done alot of shit, but I also wrote the original constitution(and the current one is basically the same) and I created the forum, I wouldn't really do anything to destroy that, that's why I trusted you to give the founder nation back because I didn't think you'd betray me like this."
Yeah, sorry about that going back on my word crap. But don't think that I forgive you for taking IN. Just because you wrote the constitution doesn't mean that you can break it whenever.
Heh, Auto's not going to be happy on my change of heart.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 23:02:54 GMT -5
“But don't think that I forgive you for taking IN.”
I didn’t need to forgive me, you might have done that in time, but I what I did ask was for your trust. And to start out I do it by giving the founder back. And you turn around and do this. You say it’s a ‘different situation now’ just because I lost my bargaining chip in our first “agreement”.
You guys went back on our written and voted on agreement, if there were any justice you’d be call to trial for breaking it.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Jul 14, 2008 7:24:13 GMT -5
Now that's is getting similar to an actual conversation.Good. exactly what i think - and we need to work on that. We need a solution what please everyone. We did everything what we could to restore the democratic order - remember, you proclaimed yourself as a king, we had to get the founder back, by all means neccessary. The whole agreement was unconstitutional, but if you think a trial is needed, you're the high judge  As for the solution. I would suggest a neutral person for root admin, but this is unacceptable for you. So, i think the best way to go is to include the forum administrator post in the constitution, with clear conventions, and i would suggest very strict rules, with clear consequences. And i really think we should wait for the opinions of the others. IN has more than 40 nations, this isn't only our business. |
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 14, 2008 8:11:58 GMT -5
"You say it’s a ‘different situation now’ just because I lost my bargaining chip in our first “agreement”."
No, I'm not reffering to that. I meant on our decision to stay at these forums or move to the new ones.
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Post by chalcidice on Jul 14, 2008 10:31:48 GMT -5
I know I'm a newbie and don't know almost any of the backstory to this. What I do know was that I was appalled when I saw the region turned into a dictatorship. I joined IN because it looked like it reflected my own nation's democratic ideals. Apparently, it does not. At least not anymore.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 14, 2008 12:11:20 GMT -5
"No, I'm not reffering to that. I meant on our decision to stay at these forums or move to the new ones."
In our first agreement we went over this, or so I thought we did...
"Apparently, it does not. At least not anymore."
First their was a king, now we have people using unjustice means to ensure their safety, the democratic values have gone down the toilet.
"include the forum administrator post in the constitution, with clear conventions, and i would suggest very strict rules, with clear consequences."
I could agree to this depending on the details.
"The whole agreement was unconstitutional"
We fallow the constitution because it is a written government document that we held a vote for and was passed.
We did the same thing for our agreement, but you choose not to honor it, how is it any less a government document we agreed upon?
"by all means neccessary."
I thought we had done so by this agreement. I returned the region to it's democratic order and returned the founder nation, why can't you hold up your end?
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Post by chalcidice on Jul 14, 2008 14:34:44 GMT -5
" I thought we had done so by this agreement. I returned the region to it's democratic order and returned the founder nation, why can't you hold up your end? By democratic order being restored, does this mean the supra-constitutional monarchy is finished? |
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 14, 2008 14:47:21 GMT -5
Yes the whole king thing was taken down a few days ago. And I thought things would be returning to normal, but clearly I was wrong...
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Post by Archaix on Jul 14, 2008 16:18:22 GMT -5
Am I shallow to have scanned this whole thread for my name and ignored everything else? ;D And can i just try something? D E B R O spells: debro. AWESOME! Oh yeah and I'd just like to say, Nibu, nobody trusts you, nobody should trust you, the fact nobody trusts you is not a personal thing at all, and this is all hilarious. |
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Jul 14, 2008 18:52:08 GMT -5
HMMM its over right as I come back? Damn I wanted a revolution.  |
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Post by Republicas Gloria on Jul 14, 2008 18:59:43 GMT -5
Now that's is getting similar to an actual conversation.Good. exactly what i think - and we need to work on that. We need a solution what please everyone. We did everything what we could to restore the democratic order - remember, you proclaimed yourself as a king, we had to get the founder back, by all means neccessary. The whole agreement was unconstitutional, but if you think a trial is needed, you're the high judge As for the solution. I would suggest a neutral person for root admin, but this is unacceptable for you. So, i think the best way to go is to include the forum administrator post in the constitution, with clear conventions, and i would suggest very strict rules, with clear consequences. And i really think we should wait for the opinions of the others. IN has more than 40 nations, this isn't only our business. Sorry for the double post but I'm as neutral as Switzerland and not even a region member . Pick me! |
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 14, 2008 19:35:38 GMT -5
Hey, we've all got our normal names back! Praise the Lord!
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