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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Jul 13, 2008 17:46:15 GMT -5
This is an open letter for you, Nibu. Our negotiations are public, anyone can read it here: inationscrisisforum.proboards83.com/index.cgi?board=dis&action=display&thread=3I know we had a deal, but of course that was only a tool to get the founder back. It's an unfair tactic, but the founder was took by you with an unfair tactic too. So i repeat my demand mentioned on the "crisisboard", which is the admin account of this forum. You'll still get full-scale admin powers, i guarantee that. Also, i don't know the pw of the founder, and i don't want to know it to avoid the concentration of the power. If you don't agree, we'll use the new forum already created, grr, grr, etc. i hope we can reach an agreement |
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Jul 13, 2008 17:49:01 GMT -5
Supported.
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 17:50:38 GMT -5
I also support it.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 18:32:19 GMT -5
I'm not giving you the forum's main account, if you guys wanna be pricks and go back on your words like I feared, that not only surprises me but makes you an opposition to a fair and democratic way of running a region.
Really, now who's the oppressor?
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Jul 13, 2008 18:34:58 GMT -5
we are only doing this as you have showed that you are quite willing to use your admin powers for wrong. We can't risk you doing this again, what you did was just to major to take no action about the forum.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 18:37:35 GMT -5
WHAT could I possible do on the forum? You already have another one set up if I did anything, and I can't even think of what I would do.
Plus, why on earth would I trust you guys again? You'd just go back on your words again, clearly.
You guys have no honor.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Jul 13, 2008 18:40:10 GMT -5
it will remain the same. As i said, you will still get the same powers as you have now. If you want, i don't even touch the admin panel. This would be only a security measure. There were laws, which laws you had been broken..
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 18:42:59 GMT -5
"Plus, why on earth would I trust you guys again? You'd just go back on your words again, clearly."
Heh, exactly our point. How can we trust you with so much power?
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 18:45:22 GMT -5
If I will "still get the same powers as you have now" then why does it matter if that I have the main admin account or not? Seems like another way you can go back on your word.
Also if you look under "crimes" in the code, my crime is not listed.
AND WHY ON EARTH WOULD I TRUST YOU?
EDIT;
"Heh, exactly our point. How can we trust you with so much power?"
AGAIN "WHAT could I possible do on the forum? You already have another one set up if I did anything, and I can't even think of what I would do."
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Jul 13, 2008 18:50:51 GMT -5
Yes we would have a forum set up, but then we would be loosing even more posts and work than we have to now. Nibu you cant be trusted with root admin.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Jul 13, 2008 18:52:04 GMT -5
because you couldn't ban people without trials...that's the only point in this.
It doesn't need to. You've bypassed the senate, hijacked the founder(indeed, there's no law
for it, but c'mon common sense), and banned people without a trial.
Because despite all our arguments, i believe i've never been unfair with you.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 18:54:57 GMT -5
Guess what, even if I agreed with you, it doesn't matter because your liars.
"i believe i've never been unfair with you. "
What about right now?
"because you couldn't ban people without trials...that's the only point in this. "
If I still have alll the same things then I'd still be able to do this...
Your no better than I, you pretend to go about things in an honest and fair manner than turn around and abuse the situation.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Jul 13, 2008 18:59:03 GMT -5
Think about it, we only did this because you did ALOT of things wrong because you were bored. Your going to get bored again sooner or later so we have basically saved the forum from another one of your bored moments. Yes, we lied, i call it a white lie, it was neccesary. I have had my fair deal of arguments with you but i am not bursting with joy doing this part ulthough it was nessecary. I can understand why you don't want to give root admin, i wouldn't if i was you, its your forum and thats fine but we invite you over to the new forum where we can continue.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Jul 13, 2008 19:03:44 GMT -5
Unfairness demand unfairness, i believe. And if you watch that negatiotion thread closely, you will see that the protagonist was not me there.
That's what the root admin for. You cannot ban the root admin without a trial, so the root admin could be used when the admin(you) go mad. It would defend the freedom of speech, for example.
I don't give a shit about this, Nibu. If i promise something, then things will be done according to my promise. You've trusted me with the forum when you was inactive, and i believe everything was all right. So, you can trust me - if you say yes, everything will be just fine.You receive a permanent admin account, as you deserve it- you've founded this forum.
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Post by Teivostan on Jul 13, 2008 19:05:58 GMT -5
Just blame the lying part on me. It was my fault for all the dis-honesty. There's no need to blame Debro whatsoever, I believe he wanted to be honest about this whole thing all along (correct me if I'm wrong Debro). I'm the one who thought about trying to trick you into giving us the founder. Look back on the posts on the crisis forum. Debro hardly told any lies compared to what I said.
If you should trust anyone it's Debro, he even tried to convince Auto and I to let you stay as root admin when we got the founder. What do you have to lose?
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 19:07:34 GMT -5
What your doing makes no sense.
You could simply wait till I do w/e it is you fear me doing(which I don't plan on doing) and then go the new forum.
OR
You can do this and loose the forum now, because no way in hell am I gonna trust you.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 19:10:06 GMT -5
Your all fucking liars, you both agreed to what we had agreed upon now your going back on your words, so you can go to hell
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Jul 13, 2008 19:14:20 GMT -5
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looks like this is your final word...
How about a neutral person, like Kardas?He was on holiday during the whole process, and i think he's completely trustable..
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Jul 13, 2008 19:15:54 GMT -5
don't go personal, Nibu. I can say it too, i trusted you with the founder password, and you've stolen the founder...it leads nowhere.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Jul 13, 2008 19:18:42 GMT -5
HA
Go to hell
If you care so much that I have this forum, then go to your new one.
But honestly. It makes no sense.
I don't see why you don't wait till I do w/e it is you fear me doing(which I don't plan on doing) and then go the new forum. Instead of loosing the forum right off the bat.
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