History quiz

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

i have to check the revolution-era again....


This one is tricky too.....i know who,but

Winsor
Winson...

eh something with Wi..

He was leaning to stay out the whole war.....
Ah,that's only a half point. I don't want to be a millionarie.

p.s.:

And the Spartacist uprising was in 1918. That's actually very interesting, and involves revolutionary socialists at their finest.

Yes. I've created a thread at once in the coin-interior

[Archaix]

Almost had it: Woodrow Wilson.

I guess you're correct. Your go.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Yeah, almost.

Hm. stick with the WWI, an easy one. What was the name of the nationalist who killed Franz Ferdinand?

And, just an extra one was he/she executed?

[Archaix]

Gavrilo Princip of the Serbian Black Hand Gang, I do believe.

Did he die of TB in a prison?

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Excellent again,your turn.

[Archaix]

WW2, now:

Which formidable German battleship was sunk in the Denmark Straits in 1941 by the British Fleet, at the cost of the flagship HMS Hood?

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

It is unsinkable Bismarck, isn't it?

[Archaix]

correct! I once made a model of that.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Really?This was my hobby for 5-8 years(mostly 1:35, and WWII ground forces) Sadly, i haven't got the time and the patience for this nowadays...

The next question(WWII):

What was the name of the operation wherein the Third Romanian army was destroyed?

[Archaix]

I used to do WW2 planes. It was great, although you did tend to get high of the glue fumes.

Hmm. I know there was a Romanian contingent at Stalingrad that was wiped out during Operation Saturn (or Little Saturn, I'm not sure). If it isn't that, then I have no idea.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

I began with planes,too.My favourites was the english bombers(Lancester, Halifax,etc.).They were quite big, and looked really nice.

Well, almost. Operation Saturn actually destroyed some romanian troops in the "Kessel"(the encircled german 6th army).

However, 2-4 weeks earlier the red army launched an offensive(operation Uranus) on the north flank of the 6th army (that was the romanian 3rd army) which gave the opportunity for a full-scale offensive(operation saturn) - side note: the hungarian 2nd army was also destroyed in this operation.

Little saturn was a successful attempt to stop Manstein's counter-attack(operation Wintergewitter) to relieve the encircled 6th Army.

Your go.

[Archaix]

I read a book on Stalingrad about 6 months ago that outlined all this, but I can only remember the major things about it. It's also painstaking to read because you can't side with the either the axis or the Russians, unlike the Spanish Civil War, or the American Civil War. There's no way of telling which one is the lesser of two evils.

Manstein should have just quit there and then, and turned on Hitler. Rommel and Stauffenburg were both unenthusiastic about the Nazis, and it would have helped the allies out a lot (though I suppose that's a debate for another day).

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What event transpired in Hungary 1956? <- Too easy.

What was the name of the Russian foreign minister who signed the Non-Aggression Pact with German foreign minister Ribbentrop in August 1939?

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

I've read an awfully biased(towards the soviets) one titled "Stalingrad" by Roger somebody... ah, i can't understand those writers who think that germans were stupid...in fact they had very skilled leaders(apart from Keitel,Göring etc), determined soldiers, and often superior equipment. Too bad they fighted for such a wrong cause.

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The answer is: Squealer






Or, in the real life, Molotov.
'56: another shame of the Soviets....In fact Imre Nagy(the revolutionary PM) was socialist....

[Archaix]

There was a massive programme-run on the BBC about '56 last year to commemorate it. Really eye-opening.

And yes, Molotov (or Squealer) is the correct answer! Your go.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

archaix said:

There was a massive programme-run on the BBC about '56 last year to commemorate it. Really eye-opening.

Really?I'm a bit surprised....At that time the suez-mess deflected the attention..

Ok then, now see how good your memory... a question about the uprising.

What was the name of the stalinist dictator who was in charge before Imre Nagy?

[Archaix]

Ah, now I can't remember that. By the way, wasn't there a sort of Russian inspired communist movement in Hungary after the 1st World War?

And they included a series on Suez, too. I didn't watch that, though, since I knew about that already.

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

You're right;in fact that was the 2nd -successful- communist revolution in Europe. Kun's government lasted for 133 days, the hungarian red army fighted successfully on two fronts, but with french(!) help from the balkans, it collapsed shortly. The plan was to unite with the russian red army, but it was quite busy at the time...

Sadly, the government wasn't too efficient, Kun refused to redistribute the nationalized lands, so the peasantry didn't supported the revolution. Also, the "red terror" was a common tool to "convince" the enemies of the worker class....(side note: 1 month later, it was followed by the "white terror")

However, the educational and healthcare reforms were kept in use after the fall of the government. And another interesting thing with this that the left was united in this case, the social democrats and the communists were merged in one party.

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The answer is Mátyás Rákosi(he was involved in the 1919 revolution,too)

Ok, now a "normal" question: Who was the leader of the saxon army in the battle of Hastings?

[Archaix]

Harold Godwinson. About four years ago, when I was as patriotic as patriotic can be, I argued that England would be better if he'd won.

Which Italian general was the undisputed hero of the Italian War of Independance?

[Robespierre - P.R. of Debro]

Ah, i was very patriotic for a while too. We had a very charismatic history teacher and he had influenced me a lot. He had a tattoo on his back, "I'm hungarian", with ancient hungarian letters.

Let's form a "club" ;D




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I would say Giuseppe Garibaldi, but was he a general?(i know something about his actions in south america, but i'm not sure.)

[Archaix]

Correct! And yes, I'm pretty sure he was a general.

Ah, but I was never a monarchist patriot! Nor particularly in favour of the guillotine...

I was thinking about making an essay or discussion on patriotism and nationalism, because my views towards both (particularly patriotism) have changed considerably over the past two years. I'm wondering if a more local, natural version of patriotism might be a good thing after all.