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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 27, 2007 3:49:01 GMT -5
ok, Nibu isn't satisfied with our "ruleless" RPG.
1. As far as i know - i never played real rpg - u can't say thing happened only your intention
This is called godmodding, or something like that.
The first godmodding was the "landmass massacre". Automaticz said that my city is "bombed to the ground". You can only say "20000 bombers are on the way..." etc. And i can reply. If u r just say "bombed to the ground" i have no chance. then others followed.
2. Nibu, don't you think that if you throw in your x billions the game will become a bit boring? You're conquerring nations with two lines. What was your expectation?Sure, everybody can surrender, but where is the fun?
And, china has fuckin big population. But no, they can't send 1,2 billion soldiers to everywhere. Such a big population needs massive "human investments" in the industry and especially in the agriculture. To not speak about the military supply.
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Post by Archaix on May 27, 2007 5:18:34 GMT -5
True. A developed attacking nation with, say, 2 billion inhabitants will only have one billion (or slightly more) that work; the rest are 'dependants' (eg, old people, children, handicapped people). Of the remaining 1 billion, probably 2/3 of them will be in essential work.
However, a defending nation would probably be able to draw on a local militia as well as the professional army.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 27, 2007 5:44:18 GMT -5
well i did go a bit over the top with bombing the city to the ground but after that everything i said was realistic, mostly
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 27, 2007 5:58:33 GMT -5
"then others followed." i mean other players.
Like the rebellion in Nibu's back. In fact, i can say -in this way- that Nibu's population decided to sleep for a year....
The problem -i think - is not with the realism but with the method.
for example: Nibu occupied 2 countries. He said they're occupied, without any debate. The acceptable way of this should be something like this:
"1,2 billion of soldiers sent to the borders of Archaix, starting a full-scale assault"
then archaix can repy:
"Defenders slowly retreating leaving sand fortresses behind which blowin in the face of the nibuian soldiers"
ok, it's very silly example, but i hope you will understand. The key is that you can't say what happening with others.
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Post by Archaix on May 27, 2007 7:50:50 GMT -5
That's exactly how I would have retaliated. With the sand and everything.
I think we should have it so that it isn't so serious as to have loads of rules, but with a certain amount of reality to make it pretty plausible, such as "early reports indicate that Nibuan soldiers have captured 70-80% of Archaix, along with the capital. Heavy pockets of resistance remain, but the main defending force has retreated to..."
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 27, 2007 8:17:21 GMT -5
sounds good to me. Nibu?
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 27, 2007 9:32:27 GMT -5
Im not nibu but thats what i thought it would be like when i made the thread.
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Post by silvado on May 27, 2007 10:48:28 GMT -5
Yeah I RPG abit and this is the basic stuff. You let the people decide the effects to their stuff. Just got to the NS forums-International Incidents and look at guides there.
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 27, 2007 14:10:57 GMT -5
I had a plan on what I was gonna do next, but I had to go away for a day and everyone went and did everything for me.
And as for your examples, I hradly understand what you mean. You started riots and rebels in my own nation, how can ou say I went over the line with my RPG.
It doesn't matter, i'm just done with the RPG stuff.
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Post by Alida & Syren on May 27, 2007 14:27:04 GMT -5
is it necessary for us all to fall out over a game. tbh honest Ns itself is only a game itself. so lets not argue over a silly game within a game!
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Post by Neo Nibu on May 27, 2007 15:06:19 GMT -5
All i'm saying is I don't want to play a game with no rules or boundaries
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 28, 2007 6:28:02 GMT -5
I had a plan on what I was gonna do next, but I had to go away for a day and everyone went and did everything for me. Yea, i had it several times too...plans, plans And as for your examples, I hradly understand what you mean. You started riots and rebels in my own nation, how can ou say I went over the line with my RPG. It was some sort of confession, of course...i haven't seen other chance to stop your steam-roller forgive me. "All i'm saying is I don't want to play a game with no rules or boundaries" i'm with you in this. We can implement 2-3 simple rules, and we have to choose an RPG-chief(like dianawi was) who will oversee this. 1. The effect of an event is decided by the suffering nation 2. When the suffering nation doesn't reply for 4 days, the others can decide the effect 3. The RPG-Chief will decide in controversial cases Opinions?
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Post by silvado on May 28, 2007 11:13:55 GMT -5
I like it Debro. Short, simple, and basic rp stuff.
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Post by Archaix on May 28, 2007 11:31:30 GMT -5
Fine by me. Since I've suffered the most thus far.
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Post by deutschgarten on May 28, 2007 11:54:36 GMT -5
Rules look good. Because without them evyone would be goddmodding like we were before.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 28, 2007 12:32:52 GMT -5
what happened to my rules, i cant find the post again
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 29, 2007 14:20:59 GMT -5
here r your rules, auto. You've posted them on the alliance thread....
* You cant destroy a whole nation or a whole city in one day. * You have to loose at some things some times, you can't always win. * Your millitary is not a unlimited size. * No putting a sheild or anything like that around a nation or city so it can't be destroyed. * Make some disatsters happen to your nation, no nation is perfect or nothing bad happens to it. * Don't go to war with another nation all the time or for no reason, think about the war between Debro, me ect. it built up for ages and took ages before it started. * You can't win a war or make a huge change in a war in one day, give other people a little time to act too. * Use common sense, don't go over the top about anything really, think about what it would be like in a real country
i suggest to use these as directives for the RPG-chief, who will oversee the whole RPG.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 29, 2007 14:22:54 GMT -5
RPG cheif It is just guidelines because nibu didn't like the rpg
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on May 29, 2007 14:26:32 GMT -5
Plz read the whole thread..lol.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on May 29, 2007 14:29:43 GMT -5
We don't need a RPG cheif, all nations can read the guidelines and there we go and if something happens then nations can tell that nation to stop.
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