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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 20, 2007 12:37:59 GMT -5
This is just an idea, I don't think most people will like it and it most likely won't happen... but i'm gonna say it anyways!  Ok, so if you havn't noticed the region has grow stale and fairly inactive. What I as think was we refound the region. Loose some dead weight. Keep the same forum and government officals and documents. I say a new name, no offence but "International Nations" is rather dull in my opinion. And as you may hav guess before getting to this point, i'd like to be the one to found it. Automaticz is a great founder and all, just he doesn't seem that intrested in being a founder. If we were to do this i'd give both him and Alidia&Syren co-founder status. And someone else could be delegate of the new region. And on another note, I'd hav more motivation to recruit if I was the founder. Over the last few days you can see I havn't been recruiting, but you kno i'm good at it. I was thinking of the name "Freie Leute" for the new region. It means "free people" in german. It's just an idea... So what do you guys think? -Nibu |
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Post by Alida & Syren on Mar 20, 2007 12:42:34 GMT -5
hmmm, it seems like a sensible idea but i dont know. there are good reasons for re-founding but i dunno. you should ask Automaticz about this- it is his region after all. I think we should have a vote about this, because it is a very strong suggestion and would effect all of us a great deal.
And by the way- if we do decide upon this i think we should vote on the name because the name "Freie Leute" dosen't really float my boat!
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Mar 20, 2007 14:31:22 GMT -5
I don't agree with this at all the name International Nations might not be the best idea but i don't want to be replaced as founder.
Alidia and Syren and I worked hard to get this region to where it is today, For weeks we worked hard just to get the amount of nations here to 10. I do want to be founder and you can't say i don't because Alidia and Syren and I stared the region we MADE it. You have helped ALOT nibu but i wouldn't want you or anyone replacing me as founder because it was not you that started this region.
I may not seem active but beleive me every day i check the region and the forum and once the head of positions have been decided this region can really start to grow.
We MIGHT make a new region with a new name so all the active nations would come but i dont think it is a good idea and if we were to do that i would create it.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 20, 2007 16:04:12 GMT -5
It's interesting,Nibu. You said that party system will split our region. Then what's this? You would like to 'Loose some dead weight' - man, it's serious. For example Suctioncups is maybe silent, but he/she's workin' hard. He's our last registered user on the forum;altrough he has done a lot for the region(I saw when he tried to save the ass of that 'mondle' guy in a non-feeder region, for example.)
You said people will get involved as time pass...and what's this about the founder? You threw the first stones at ILMT cuz he wanted POWER. Don't be a priest who speakin' about water and drinkin' wine....
Anyway, I think we should stay. Automaticz is a little silly with the pinguin thing, but i'm sure he'll act when needed. Just continue the recruiting, and more people will become active. We've got about 20 active nations in the region, several will stay when we move.....
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Post by deutschgarten on Mar 20, 2007 17:44:29 GMT -5
I think we should keep automaticz as the founder. He has been doing a good job. And well this does seem like just a way for you to gain more power, Nibu.
But, I do think we need a name change. I mean "International Nations" just doesn't sound very attractive compared to some other names out there.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 20, 2007 21:48:06 GMT -5
Meh, I didn't think most ppl would like the idea...
And yes, It is a way to increase my power, true. I'm not used to being in a region where i'm not the founder. Although compairing me to Ilmt is a bit much, i'm just talking about this, not cheating to make it so. I've been thinking of going off and founding a region for a while now, but I hardly up and leave. I could, but it wouldn't be fair, and a good chance a few nations would come w/ me, not as much as if I had left a few weeks earlyer but still enough to put a bad taste in your mouth, so to speak. And by dead weight I mean inactive nations. I had another idea, but it still has some things I need to work out. I'll post it once I figue out all the details. It would include an additional amendment, i'll hav that written up once I figue the whole thing out.
-Nibu
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 21, 2007 6:52:30 GMT -5
"Although compairing me to Ilmt is a bit much, i'm just talking about this, not cheating to make it so." - Maybe it was, i wanted only to give some contrast altrough, if it was an insult, forgive me... "still enough to put a bad taste in your mouth"- I really don't think it's necessary Nibu, we're all working for the same goal here, or at least I hope it. I know most people don't like me here because i hold 'extreme' views( and maybe my poor english is a reason too ) but i think this is a good,mixed company with good ideas...maybe when we form an other region, we loose some of them, not just the 'dead weight'. In my eyes, a region with people who share the same views can be really boring... Anyway, the only way I can support this when we'll ELECT our founder for a month or two. Yes, we can do that. I don't think that our current system is really democratic. We have to work on our law-system too, i think that's our first task after the election. Please, check the 'old gov. positions' thread for example.... |
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 21, 2007 10:40:42 GMT -5
I'm not saying it's necessary, i'm just saying i've been thinking about going off to found and region and I kno it hurt IN, with it's numbers...
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Mar 21, 2007 11:43:33 GMT -5
The name International Nations is not very good but it would be a bit of a waste moving everyone and starting a new region just for the name, the name is not what counts its what the region is like.
Nibu if you are really thinking about founding a region of your own then why are you the UN Delegate. I would and im sure most people would prefer if the UN Delegate was toatally comited to the region.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 21, 2007 12:44:22 GMT -5
I can agree with automaticz in the name thing for two reasons;
firstly yes, it sounds it's early, and a bit waste of time.
secondly a lot of people will stay i think, and a larger region is more tempter for new nations - but it's just an opinion.
But Automaticz,it's not wise to be the founder and delegate simultaneously...why?You already have all the assets you need to act when needed. I mean, you can ban people, you can set password, you have acces to the world factbook entry..it's more than enough.
And, i think Nibu is really doing a great job as our delegate. He's makin' a poll for each UN-proposal, which is a very good thing in my opinion, and should be formalized as a law. And as probably the most active member, in case of war he can act quickly.
This whole emulation for power is petty in my eyes, gentlemen. It's not constructive. We are so proud that we are a democratic region - then why not ELECT these positions? I'm sure that it wuold put an end to this pointless rivalisation. Endorsements are fine to have, but keep in mind that a stable delegate means a stable region.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 21, 2007 16:39:59 GMT -5
I'm the UN delegate as it is the next closest thing. It was just an idea that i've been tossing around. I wasn't planning on leavin unless you guys liked the idea. I just wanted to kno for sure.
I don't think we need to vote on the founder we can keep automaticz as the founder, I think he is doing a fine job and w/o him we wouldn't be here. Well most of us, the people I recruited would be in a different region I had joined or founded. As for voting on a UN Delegate, it's not a bad idea, if we held a vote on the issue I'd vote against it for obvious reasons, but I wouldn't really debate the issue like I did w/ the parties idea.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 22, 2007 8:51:38 GMT -5
I suggested the elected founder post in case we change our name - otherwise it would be an unnecessary complication of the voting process - and i can agree with you, Automaticz is doing a fine job too.
I'm almost sure that you would win the delegate election. I'm still suggesting it since -as you already said - it's a very important post.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Mar 22, 2007 13:17:00 GMT -5
Its a good idea on voting on the UN Delegate but while the region is growing and setting up the government Nibu should probly be the UN Delegate. We can set up political parties and the person who made the patry would become UN Delegate if their party won. It would also be a good idea to put a bit of RPG into this, you could say that you would do things that you would really do and things like "I will make this region a region that uses greener sorces of energy" So it would be a good idea to set up political parties asap to get a RPG government thing up but it wont all be rpg some things would be real like a bigger effort to make allies. I might make a political patry but if my party one someone else would be UN Delegate.
Sorry if that was a bit confusing. One more thing, if everyone really hates the region name even though i dont think it matters we could vote on a name and i would found a region with the new name and everyone would move there.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 22, 2007 16:45:31 GMT -5
I really don't like the idea of "political parties" playing a role in the government... You can set up one for RPG, but I don't think having it effect the UN Delegacy or Head of Senate and so on is a good idea.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 23, 2007 12:23:40 GMT -5
 why don't you draft an amendment to the constitution, then we would know what we are talking about.....
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Post by Alida & Syren on Mar 23, 2007 14:13:44 GMT -5
i agree with Nibu. I really don't like th idea of parties- and it is more than likly to couse rivalry in the region- we don't want a civil war on our hands!
Also i think that the name is fine- it may not be the best but its fine, and moving the whole region, i think, is too much just to change a name.
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Mar 24, 2007 12:22:54 GMT -5
I really like the idea of political parties it means a group of nations can join a party that stands for what they beleive in. We would have to say there can be no being nasty to anyone else.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Mar 24, 2007 12:47:36 GMT -5
Listen, if you wanna make parties, fine, but if it effects whom can run for Delegate or w/e i'd say no way. It would put those in a small party or not in a party at all at a disadvantage.
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Post by Robespierre - P.R. of Debro on Mar 25, 2007 17:47:51 GMT -5
I really like the idea of political parties it means a group of nations can join a party that stands for what they beleive in. We would have to say there can be no being nasty to anyone else. What you're saying is very similar to my concept (with one exeption;i wanted that the winner give the Head senator, with co-HS not in the winner party) The idea was not supported by the majority, i think we should respect it - as well as the reasons are understandable. Be that as it may, i think you should form your party - the COIN is exist, and nobody protested against it. You would jazz up the RPG-area... |
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Post by His Holiness King Of Penguins on Mar 26, 2007 14:13:41 GMT -5
Yes but could someone else make on because i am founder.
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" -Archaix
why don't you draft an amendment to the constitution, then we would know what we are talking about.....